1. Oh, great – I wanted to ask a question and this leads right into it . . .

    For how long (how many days, I assume) after the two time changes do you think to yourself, ‘It’s X o’clock, but it’s REALLY Y o’clock’? X=the time the clock says; Y=the time your body (and your dogs) says it really is.

  2. I’m glad someone understood the question . . . ‘-). It makes a difference if one has to go to work or school; I’m sure that ‘forces’ a person to get with the correct time a lot faster than if one is retired and doesn’t have time-related commitments.

  3. If this was supposed to be an oblique reference to ahem…one of the greatest jazz/rock anthems ever recorded! then it’s rather weak soup, it doesn’t parse right, but I’ll give them an E for effort.

    When I was in college, one year I didn’t set any of my clocks or watches for DST. It only took about a week before I was automatically adjusting the time without thinking about it, and, yes, this was pre-digital.

  4. @ Andréa – For me it depends a little on the weather. If the sky is clear, I miss (or at least notice) the changed amount of afternoon daylight more. There’s no effect in the morning at all, because even if I am up that early, I have more important things to do than look at the sky.
    P.S. @ “music” – I have never liked any of the groups named after cities or states: Boston, Chicago, Kansas, Alabama, etc., but I’d be willing to make an exception for the New York (or Berlin) Philharmonic.

  5. Like Kilby, I mostly notice it depending on the weather. There was one year in university where it stuck with me until the end of the quarter in December, but that had reasons. I had a two-hour lecture in the late afternoon in a basement classroom. We would take a break at the halfway point. First half of the quarter it would be light outside during the break and when class was over. After the change, it would be light during the break and dark or nearly so after class. It was very disorienting.

    As for the music, really early Chicago wasn’t bad. They were best when they were still the Chicago Transit Authority. I liked Boston’s first album well enough when it first came out, but can’t stand them now. Kansas I can take or leave. I won’t seek them out, but if they come up on the radio or streaming I won’t change stations/hit skip.

  6. @ Kilby… your prejudice intrigued me, and I see that there are a lot of bands named after Cities, States, Countries, Regions, Continents, Planets and even a couple of Galaxies, according to the linked page!

    Many I have heard of. Several have no connection to the places they are named after, like Beirut, Berlin, Nazareth, Texas, Japan, Balkans, Asia, Neptune and M83. (America is unjustly captioned as not being American, but they were apparently sons of US Air Force personnel posted to the UK who formed a band in London and called themselves America so people didn’t think they were British bods trying to sound American.)

    One great British band (not on that list) named after a town is Portishead, a coastal town near Bristol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portishead_(band)

  7. @Andréa: “For how long (how many days, I assume) after the two time changes do you think to yourself, ‘It’s X o’clock, but it’s REALLY Y o’clock’?”

    At home, etc. — I don’t really know. But while out in my car, there have been years when the answer would be “all summer” — because I could not figure out how to change the time on the clock, so it was simpler just to leave it on the standard setting and mentally add one hour. (Except that the minutes reading was slightly off, so in practice it was “add one hour and subtract five minutes” all summer long.)

    Mrs. Shrug finally managed to figure out how to change the clock a couple of years ago, so now the answer is just “for a few days, until she gets around to it.”

  8. @ narmitaj – I remember having high hopes when “Asia” was initially announced, but was a little disappointed with their first album, and never followed them much afterwards.
    P.S. @ Powers – I didn’t say that Chicago wasn’t “good”, I just said that I don’t like their music. 😉

  9. I followed narmitaj’s link and found I knew damn few of those bands.
    Berlin: Liked the EP, after that — meh. I did see them live once and it was a good show. When they did “Sex (I’m a…)”, Terri Nunn and the guy stood at opposite ends of the stage, a good 50 feet apart, and it was the most GD erotic thing.
    Nazareth: I know and like the same 2 songs everybody knows.
    America: I like a few of their songs, but that’s about it. The third verse of every song is “la la la”.
    Asia: meh
    Europe: Kill it with fire.

  10. Andréa, I find the trick for me is to completely ignore what the ‘body’ time is. The longer you keep reminding yourself ‘but it’s really 10’ the longer it takes to get used to it. At least, that’s true for me.

    I never had any adjustment troubles until a friend said it really threw her off physically. Then I started paying attention to it, and had trouble, too.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean I won’t use it as an excuse when I do something addle-pated.

  11. Andréa @1: Less than a day, if even that. It’s mostly just a few double-takes when I go to work/come from work, and briefly wonder why it’s so bright/so dark.

  12. As I was changing the clocks this weekend, I got to wondering what percentage of households don’t have any to change anymore. Many phones and watches can automatically change the time. I assume most cars and appliances still need manual intervention.

  13. Right – and we have to be careful in this household that BOTH of us don’t change the oven and microwave (the only two clocks in the house).

  14. I once went a whole summer with my new car’s clock on standard time because I couldn’t figure out how to change it to DST and I kept forgetting to look it up (in my defense, there’s nothing logical about this function). On Halloween, when I was driving my sister-in-law somewhere, she noticed the clock was an hour off and told me hers was exactly the same and she could do it for me. Honestly I’d have preferred she didn’t because we were just a couple of days away from switching it back anyway, but she went and did it anyway.

    So now twice a year, I stare at my car’s clock and think “Okay, what did I see Jeanelle do??”

    And yes, I did almost call her once from my car to talk me through it.

  15. Mark M – I was thinking along similar lines, but about pre-digital times. Back in the day, appliances didn’t have clocks built in. Well, ovens had timers, but the clock was generally analog; TVs, radios, nope; didn’t even have microwaves. Changing clocks for DST probably consisted of your watch, the bedroom alarm clock and maybe a wall clock or two, easy-peasy. But your’e right, once the whole world is connected to the internet, nobody will know how to adjust the time on their clocks.

    Speaking of auto-adjusting clocks, for years I had a digital alarm clock that monitored a satellite signal to keep correct time, and automatically adjust for DST. The problem showed up when the Feds changed the dates for starting and ending DST. The clock insisted on using the old dates for the change over, so it was out of sync twice a year for a couple of weeks. You couldn’t just reset it, because once or twice a day it would reset to the satellite’s time, so to get around the issue, you had to put the clock in the next time zone. Actually, you couldn’t just reset it, because there was no way to manually set the time, period. I finally had to give up on it after this last move. Although it had a setting to turn off DST, apparently the makers never thought anyone in Hawai’i would ever buy their clock, so it didn’t have a setting for HST.

    But the gods got even with me for my snarky remark earlier. The electricity went out briefly this afternoon, and we had to go through the house and reset all of the clocks, anyway.

  16. I quit bothering with the microwave because of power outages. O]In the house, only the bedroom alarm needs to be adjusted for DST, everything else (computers/iPad/cable box) take care of themselves.

    The Bronco also needs resetting.

  17. @ DemetriosX – Speaking of America, they had a recent resurgence, and are still touring, which Jeff Stahler used for an election day joke:

  18. I understand that there is a watch store in Manhattan which starts days in advance changing the time on the display watches back and forth and people to to watch this being done.

    I changed the time on the light timer we have set up to run several lights in the house (something which if any piece of goes bad, has to be tossed and a new system purchased as it is now obsolete). For some reason the living room light no longer goes on from the timer (we can turn it on by hand). I am not sure what changing the time in the device did to that timer setting.

    When Robert used to go to work and I was at the point where i only had a few clients, my system for dealing with the change to DST was to just stay on standard time. We would go to bed and I would stay up for another hour watching TV. I would wake up an hour later unless I had someplace to be. Sure meals and dealing with anything outside the house had to take the change into account and I changed the clock and my watch, but my body happily stayed on standard time.

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