And from the The Cartoonist knows more than the Character Department:
And circling back to where we began, another Mannequin:
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And on a 3rd level, DH owned a ranch in Taos that he called Mexico.
And I think DH is in the end a more interesting figure than TE, though arguably TE was “more important” in lasting real-world effect.
Thanks, I’ll take my krill over-easy please.
Actually my fave here would be the doggie writing room.
Hojotoho! Heiaha!
Gotta be more fun than figuring out why Excel won’t make a pretty graph from your data!
(Turn it up and enjoy the thick harmonies!)
Crazy quasi-modern-dress Danish production:
The Met, with a “the machine” production:
Someone want to explain Arlo and Janis to me, or do I have to go look around Wikipedia?
Powers, it’s something the commenters here have been hinting at already. Arlo name-checks D H Lawrence. But then talks about time alone in the Desert, which would not apply to D H Lawrence but to a different guy, T E Lawrence, the central figure in “Lawrence of Arabia”. I don’t know which of them, if either in fact, said something like that remark about travel, drink, and sleep.
Sadly (!), those who suffer from Depression with a capital “D” know (or at least I hope they know!) that cause and effect does not apply to depression, at least outside of “screwed up chemical signals are causing me to be depressed”. Often, it even is a sort of cart-before-the-horse thing, you are depressed, and so you think about things until you find something that you think must have “caused” you to become depressed, but in fact, the Depression came first, or at least independent of, the “cause”.
larK, I get the “Depression comix” by email, but a quick search of tags suggests none have been posted to CIDU. They are rather severely educational rather than aiming at being funny.
With the Climo one, I was scrolling down and didn’t realize that there was a second part. The box around the top and not the bottom threw me off. So I was trying to puzzle it out. “Are we supposed to assume the dog did something like pee?” Then I saw the rest.
According to the comments on GoComics, the DH Lawrence paraphrase is something one of his characters said. Presumably, Arlo has confused DH and TE, since DH’s time in New Mexico on the Kiowa Ranch was full of socializing.
Any mention of TE Lawrence always reminds me of this sign which was on the Hotel Carver in Pasadena, California for many years:
If you can’t make it out from the photo, it says “My people are the people of the dessert,” said T.E. Lawrence, picking up his fork. I bet Arlo would approve.
Apparently Lawrence (of the DH variety) did say that about ennui.
Having never heard of D.H. Lawrence before, and not being able to tell you what Lawrence of Arabia’s given initials are, I had to look both of them up. Is this something people are really expected to understand?
“Having never heard of D.H. Lawrence before” […] ” Is this something people are really expected to understand?”
Um, no offense intended, but D H Lawrence was massively famous. At times considered scandalous, but in the long run a British novelist of the top shelf, on a par with rough contemporaries Huxley and Greene.
Does it help to mention some titles? The Plumed Serpent (where some of the Mexico sojourn comes in), The Rainbow, Women in Love (made into a powerful movie in 1969 directed by Ken Russell and co-starring future MP and CBE Glenda Jackson) , Sons and Lovers, and especially Lady Chatterly’s Lover. The sexiness around Lawrence’s reputation must have something to do with how Arlo and Janis are playing in this dialog.
No, you’re not expected to know T E Lawrence’s initials, but yes you are supposed to know about the film “Lawrence of Arabia” that it was based on a real person, and that he was a different person from novelist David Henry Lawrence.
Make that David Herbert Lawrence. As Jerome David Salinger would have known
I’ll say this, @Danny Boy – London Derriere. Women In Love was NOT a good first date movie.
Fractions – Robert has an 11yo niece who, of course,was on home learning this year. Robert’s sister (her mother) is not the brightest person (or even close to same – they never seem to be related for soooo many different differences between them) and when niece needed help with her math homework, she called her big brother – Robert.
Robert offered niece to setup a Zoom meeting so she could see what he was doing, but she only Facetimes. So he was trying to explain what to do over the phone.
The problem was a story problem with a number fractions (basically she was supposed to figure out that she needed to add the fractions in the storyline and do so to get the answer).
So instead of handing the call over to me at my desk across from him, he started helping her. His idea was to change all of the fractions to decimals and add them together – but he got stuck when some of the fractions were eighths.
He finally asked for help and I added the fractions together and explained to him that they all had to be converted to eighths to be added together and then the total could be changed back to whole numbers and a fraction – making them into decimals was not what the lesson was about. (Three weeks later I yelled out “lowest common denominator!”. He stared at me – I explained that in the problem the fractions needed to be taken to the lowest common denominator to be solved. (Knew what to do, but forgot what the process was called.)
At least he did not tell her to look it up online.
“lowest common denominator!”
Not in principle different in any significant way from “Least Common Multiple” or LCM. But “denominator” clues in where you’re getting them from and where the result is going.
Interesting, then, that the LCD formulation has become the familiar non-numerical metaphor in casual speech for something like “floor of expectations”.
I’ll say this, @Danny Boy – London Derriere. Women In Love was NOT a good first date movie.
It is if she suggested it. (She had a thing for Alan Bates and … oh, wait, that wasn’t a first date). But I guess in general not.
Oh… but two months earlier… with a different girl and a first date (in fact my first first date) was a student production in the dining hall of the reading of vignettes of D.H. Lawrence with surprisingly good results (although it could have been bad in the long run as the two weeks that followed were pretty bad).
….
Hmmm….. is there are polite way to tell someone “that one bit of information you were not familiar with is actually quite well known”? I’d say, yes, you are definitely “supposed” to know who D.H. Lawrence was and recognize his work and although you may not be expected to be able to rattle off Lawrence of Arabia’s initials but hearing “TE Lawrence” you are supposed to know that that is “Lawrence of Arabia” (a sobriquet you are supposed to recognize but probably only because of the movie.)
That said, I had know idea what Arlo was talking about when he mentioned the desert. Somehow it had never occurred to me to confuse DH Lawrence with TE Lawrence.
And I certainly don’t understand anything else about the strip.
Are they seriously considering moving to another house because Janis is bored? Does Arlo seriously think going out for mexican is on par with buying a new house in another region? And what does Janis mean what would DH Lawrence know about it? DH Lawrence was a passionate writer; I’d assume he knows a lot about emotion and existential unease. I might not know what he knew about it but I’d assume he’d know something.
A ragtime piano playing friend tells me he gets a lot of requests for the “Maple Leaf Rag” by Janis Joplin, and a few for the “Make Believe Rag” by Janis Joplin.
Janis Joplin and Scott Joplin were both American musicians born in Texas so I suppose the confusion is understandable.
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And on a 3rd level, DH owned a ranch in Taos that he called Mexico.
And I think DH is in the end a more interesting figure than TE, though arguably TE was “more important” in lasting real-world effect.
Thanks, I’ll take my krill over-easy please.
Actually my fave here would be the doggie writing room.
Hojotoho! Heiaha!
Gotta be more fun than figuring out why Excel won’t make a pretty graph from your data!
(Turn it up and enjoy the thick harmonies!)
Crazy quasi-modern-dress Danish production:
The Met, with a “the machine” production:
Someone want to explain Arlo and Janis to me, or do I have to go look around Wikipedia?
Powers, it’s something the commenters here have been hinting at already. Arlo name-checks D H Lawrence. But then talks about time alone in the Desert, which would not apply to D H Lawrence but to a different guy, T E Lawrence, the central figure in “Lawrence of Arabia”. I don’t know which of them, if either in fact, said something like that remark about travel, drink, and sleep.
Sadly (!), those who suffer from Depression with a capital “D” know (or at least I hope they know!) that cause and effect does not apply to depression, at least outside of “screwed up chemical signals are causing me to be depressed”. Often, it even is a sort of cart-before-the-horse thing, you are depressed, and so you think about things until you find something that you think must have “caused” you to become depressed, but in fact, the Depression came first, or at least independent of, the “cause”.
larK, I get the “Depression comix” by email, but a quick search of tags suggests none have been posted to CIDU. They are rather severely educational rather than aiming at being funny.
With the Climo one, I was scrolling down and didn’t realize that there was a second part. The box around the top and not the bottom threw me off. So I was trying to puzzle it out. “Are we supposed to assume the dog did something like pee?” Then I saw the rest.
According to the comments on GoComics, the DH Lawrence paraphrase is something one of his characters said. Presumably, Arlo has confused DH and TE, since DH’s time in New Mexico on the Kiowa Ranch was full of socializing.
Any mention of TE Lawrence always reminds me of this sign which was on the Hotel Carver in Pasadena, California for many years:
If you can’t make it out from the photo, it says “My people are the people of the dessert,” said T.E. Lawrence, picking up his fork. I bet Arlo would approve.
Apparently Lawrence (of the DH variety) did say that about ennui.
https://quotefancy.com/quote/1042515/D-H-Lawrence-There-are-three-cures-for-ennui-sleep-drink-and-travel
Having never heard of D.H. Lawrence before, and not being able to tell you what Lawrence of Arabia’s given initials are, I had to look both of them up. Is this something people are really expected to understand?
“Having never heard of D.H. Lawrence before” […] ” Is this something people are really expected to understand?”
Um, no offense intended, but D H Lawrence was massively famous. At times considered scandalous, but in the long run a British novelist of the top shelf, on a par with rough contemporaries Huxley and Greene.
Does it help to mention some titles? The Plumed Serpent (where some of the Mexico sojourn comes in), The Rainbow, Women in Love (made into a powerful movie in 1969 directed by Ken Russell and co-starring future MP and CBE Glenda Jackson) , Sons and Lovers, and especially Lady Chatterly’s Lover. The sexiness around Lawrence’s reputation must have something to do with how Arlo and Janis are playing in this dialog.
No, you’re not expected to know T E Lawrence’s initials, but yes you are supposed to know about the film “Lawrence of Arabia” that it was based on a real person, and that he was a different person from novelist David Henry Lawrence.
Make that David Herbert Lawrence. As Jerome David Salinger would have known
I’ll say this, @Danny Boy – London Derriere. Women In Love was NOT a good first date movie.
Fractions – Robert has an 11yo niece who, of course,was on home learning this year. Robert’s sister (her mother) is not the brightest person (or even close to same – they never seem to be related for soooo many different differences between them) and when niece needed help with her math homework, she called her big brother – Robert.
Robert offered niece to setup a Zoom meeting so she could see what he was doing, but she only Facetimes. So he was trying to explain what to do over the phone.
The problem was a story problem with a number fractions (basically she was supposed to figure out that she needed to add the fractions in the storyline and do so to get the answer).
So instead of handing the call over to me at my desk across from him, he started helping her. His idea was to change all of the fractions to decimals and add them together – but he got stuck when some of the fractions were eighths.
He finally asked for help and I added the fractions together and explained to him that they all had to be converted to eighths to be added together and then the total could be changed back to whole numbers and a fraction – making them into decimals was not what the lesson was about. (Three weeks later I yelled out “lowest common denominator!”. He stared at me – I explained that in the problem the fractions needed to be taken to the lowest common denominator to be solved. (Knew what to do, but forgot what the process was called.)
At least he did not tell her to look it up online.
“lowest common denominator!”
Not in principle different in any significant way from “Least Common Multiple” or LCM. But “denominator” clues in where you’re getting them from and where the result is going.
Interesting, then, that the LCD formulation has become the familiar non-numerical metaphor in casual speech for something like “floor of expectations”.
It is if she suggested it. (She had a thing for Alan Bates and … oh, wait, that wasn’t a first date). But I guess in general not.
Oh… but two months earlier… with a different girl and a first date (in fact my first first date) was a student production in the dining hall of the reading of vignettes of D.H. Lawrence with surprisingly good results (although it could have been bad in the long run as the two weeks that followed were pretty bad).
….
Hmmm….. is there are polite way to tell someone “that one bit of information you were not familiar with is actually quite well known”? I’d say, yes, you are definitely “supposed” to know who D.H. Lawrence was and recognize his work and although you may not be expected to be able to rattle off Lawrence of Arabia’s initials but hearing “TE Lawrence” you are supposed to know that that is “Lawrence of Arabia” (a sobriquet you are supposed to recognize but probably only because of the movie.)
That said, I had know idea what Arlo was talking about when he mentioned the desert. Somehow it had never occurred to me to confuse DH Lawrence with TE Lawrence.
And I certainly don’t understand anything else about the strip.
Are they seriously considering moving to another house because Janis is bored? Does Arlo seriously think going out for mexican is on par with buying a new house in another region? And what does Janis mean what would DH Lawrence know about it? DH Lawrence was a passionate writer; I’d assume he knows a lot about emotion and existential unease. I might not know what he knew about it but I’d assume he’d know something.
A ragtime piano playing friend tells me he gets a lot of requests for the “Maple Leaf Rag” by Janis Joplin, and a few for the “Make Believe Rag” by Janis Joplin.
Janis Joplin and Scott Joplin were both American musicians born in Texas so I suppose the confusion is understandable.