Sent in by Andréa, BillR, and Dan Sachs; this is somewhat of a CIDU-OY. You may need to brush up on your triggernometry!
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I’m going to call BS on the first one. The sine is not measured in degrees.
That”s right, an angle is quite different from a function on an angle.
Furthermore, if we can still mention Chief Soh-Cah-Toa, the described ratio would be cosine not sine. Which is cool, since co-sign is part of the loan process.
Yeah, the loan officer asked for a “co-sign” and the triangle heard “cosine”.
I’ve started noticing, when I buy deli meats not from a service counter but just packaged and on the shelf, often they are marked “uncured”. And I don’t know exactly what that means, but it makes me uncertain in the same way “no preservatives” does on other products. If there are no preservatives, isn’t it in danger of spoiling? And for bacon, ham, and salami, does that mean “not smoked” and hence lacking some of the expected flavor?
I think the cosine joke is great but sines and cosines are only defined for right triangles and it’s too hard to make out the the guy being a right triangle. The triangle on the left is drawn with a perfect isosceles shape (on the paper); I wonder if that is biasing my brain to NOT SEE the one on the right as a right triangle in perspective.
Several laughs today for me, and I really enjoyed the trigonometry graphic for this topic.
sines and cosines are only defined for right triangles
Well, there are some things about sines and cosines that only apply to right triangles — like having values given as the ratio of some length of sides as in the dialog. Or my earlier mention of the old-fashion mnemonic about Soh-Cah-Toa.
But ultimately the sine, cosine, and other basic “trig” functions are not really tied to right triangles, or triangles at all (despite the name “trigonometry”). They can be in terms of any angle, as sort of illustrated in the diagram at the very top, before the headlines and cartoons. (And it shows why these are often called instead the “circular functions”.)
Or for that matter their domain need not be angles at all, but simply numbers. Those can still be visualized geometrically, if angles are measured not in degrees but in radians (lengths on a circumference).
deety: most such stuff still contains some level of nitrites (usually you’ll find one of the ingredients is something that naturally contains same) for the flavor, just not enough for the legal definition of “cured”. And yes, they’ll probably go off if you don’t keep them in the fridge, and won’t keep as long in the fridge either, but in this day and age that mostly isn’t a problem.
(also, cured != smoked)
also, IDU the Horse for a while, I think because I was expecting a redshirt joke and it isn’t one.
Yep, because it’s a changing room, but not a changing shirt!
Some plant products have naturally-occurring nitrates. In particular celery powder or juice is used in processing meats and such products can be labeled “uncured”. It has nothing to do with smoking.
I guess ‘clam’ was chosen because it’s ‘calm’ with 2 letters switched. But it would have worked better for me with a word that sounded closer. Maybe somehow incorporate ‘comb’ or ‘comma’.
I don’t really agree that the pun must be driven by sound, specifically rhyme. Yes, that would meet the classic definition better. But there is something wonderful about “The clam before the storm”!
I’m reminded of two very old jokes.
1. A mountaineer went to a high school with his son who was about to enter as a freshman. He asked one of the teachers: “What subjects are you going to teach my son?”
The teacher said: “All the math courses. Algebra, geometry, trigonometry …”
The father said: “Make sure to teach him that there trigger-nometry. He’s the worst shot in the family.”
After a couple of weeks at school, the father asked the son, “What are they teaching you?”
The son said, “Oh, algebra, geometry, and so on.”
The father said, “Say something in geometry!”
The son said, “Pi r squared.”
The father snorted and said “Ha! Shows how much THEY know! Cornbread are square. Pie are round.”
And that’d be a big shoutout to Yoostan Wilson (before he became a chef.) One of my favorite stories of his (which is now totally obsolete and relegated to geezerdom) was about a friend who wanted to call his cousin in Nawlins. He calls the operator to get his number, and the operator replies, “That number is CApital 5-1212.” There is a long pause, and the operator asks if he got the number. His friend answers, “Yeah, I got it, but, how do you make a capital 5?” It’s funnier when Justin tells it.
I like the Cadillac Eldorado depicted in the Hidden Valet Ranch comic.
Now, don’t be shocked, but ol’ Justin amped up the Cajun accent for the cooking shows (I originally had “videos” there, I’ve been viewing too many YouTube cooking vids). I’d see him on interviews and things and it was not nearly as over-the-op.
@Danny Boy – London Derriere – Thank you, your comment made me realize that I had focused on the wrong detail (once again, I was falling asleep as I wrote)
Jim has a hypotenuse; therefore he’s a right triangle, and, I realized later, he is actually drawn as such.
However, l when I looked over at Jim after reading the texts and document, I found it not immediately obvious that he’s a right triangle; So, for me it created “cognitive dissonance” that makes it a bit more challenging for me (and I’d guess many others) to figure out the comic. (A blind trig-savvy person reading a story version of the panel would get it much more quickly because the reader would recognize Jim’s type by the mention of Jim’s “hypotenuse” and would not be biased by the picture.)
I’m grateful today that CIDU figured out the comic so that I could get back to my work quickly.
Mark in Boston – This past year plus I have been doing more baking than I have in years – and all from packaged mixes which I also have not used in years.
Since due a combination of our Diabetes and of not entering baked items at the Long Island Fair (tri county, county fair) in some years I had gotten rid of excess baking pans including my square layer pans. I had kept the round ones (as they have a swing around piece on the bottom so the cake does not get stuck in the pan). Of course in the ensuing time, I had forgotten what I had got rid of and what I still had.
We bought cornbread mix. No square baking pan. Actual true comment to self when I bake to it and realized this – “Hmmm, I can’t bake the cornbread in the round pans because “cornbread are square and pie are round”.” I did find a ceramic baking pan which was square and the correct size.
It must be ‘clam before the storm’ week . . .
Grawlix: In the series, ‘As Time Goes By’, featuring Dame Judi Dench and Geoffrey Palmer, Lionel’s father’s wife drives a Caddy like that, complete with “Dixie Song’ [Fields of Cotton] as the horn [which I’m now hearing somewhere in my subdivision].
I once owned a Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, which got about eight gallons to the mile. It was a fun car, tho; I wish I could’ve afforded to keep it. And no, I didn’t have longhorns on front; I was in Wisconsin, after all.
I bake cornbread in a cast-iron skillet.
I have a set of cornbread baking pans that make them to look like ears of corn. But I rarely or never make cornbread any more so they are rusty from hanging on the wall.
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I’m going to call BS on the first one. The sine is not measured in degrees.
That”s right, an angle is quite different from a function on an angle.
Furthermore, if we can still mention Chief Soh-Cah-Toa, the described ratio would be cosine not sine. Which is cool, since co-sign is part of the loan process.
Yeah, the loan officer asked for a “co-sign” and the triangle heard “cosine”.
I’ve started noticing, when I buy deli meats not from a service counter but just packaged and on the shelf, often they are marked “uncured”. And I don’t know exactly what that means, but it makes me uncertain in the same way “no preservatives” does on other products. If there are no preservatives, isn’t it in danger of spoiling? And for bacon, ham, and salami, does that mean “not smoked” and hence lacking some of the expected flavor?
I think the cosine joke is great but sines and cosines are only defined for right triangles and it’s too hard to make out the the guy being a right triangle. The triangle on the left is drawn with a perfect isosceles shape (on the paper); I wonder if that is biasing my brain to NOT SEE the one on the right as a right triangle in perspective.
Several laughs today for me, and I really enjoyed the trigonometry graphic for this topic.
sines and cosines are only defined for right trianglesWell, there are some things about sines and cosines that only apply to right triangles — like having values given as the ratio of some length of sides as in the dialog. Or my earlier mention of the old-fashion mnemonic about Soh-Cah-Toa.
But ultimately the sine, cosine, and other basic “trig” functions are not really tied to right triangles, or triangles at all (despite the name “trigonometry”). They can be in terms of any angle, as sort of illustrated in the diagram at the very top, before the headlines and cartoons. (And it shows why these are often called instead the “circular functions”.)
Or for that matter their domain need not be angles at all, but simply numbers. Those can still be visualized geometrically, if angles are measured not in degrees but in radians (lengths on a circumference).
deety: most such stuff still contains some level of nitrites (usually you’ll find one of the ingredients is something that naturally contains same) for the flavor, just not enough for the legal definition of “cured”. And yes, they’ll probably go off if you don’t keep them in the fridge, and won’t keep as long in the fridge either, but in this day and age that mostly isn’t a problem.
(also, cured != smoked)
also, IDU the Horse for a while, I think because I was expecting a redshirt joke and it isn’t one.
Yep, because it’s a changing room, but not a changing shirt!
Some plant products have naturally-occurring nitrates. In particular celery powder or juice is used in processing meats and such products can be labeled “uncured”. It has nothing to do with smoking.
I guess ‘clam’ was chosen because it’s ‘calm’ with 2 letters switched. But it would have worked better for me with a word that sounded closer. Maybe somehow incorporate ‘comb’ or ‘comma’.
I don’t really agree that the pun must be driven by sound, specifically rhyme. Yes, that would meet the classic definition better. But there is something wonderful about “The clam before the storm”!
I’m reminded of two very old jokes.
1. A mountaineer went to a high school with his son who was about to enter as a freshman. He asked one of the teachers: “What subjects are you going to teach my son?”
The teacher said: “All the math courses. Algebra, geometry, trigonometry …”
The father said: “Make sure to teach him that there trigger-nometry. He’s the worst shot in the family.”
After a couple of weeks at school, the father asked the son, “What are they teaching you?”
The son said, “Oh, algebra, geometry, and so on.”
The father said, “Say something in geometry!”
The son said, “Pi r squared.”
The father snorted and said “Ha! Shows how much THEY know! Cornbread are square. Pie are round.”
And that’d be a big shoutout to Yoostan Wilson (before he became a chef.) One of my favorite stories of his (which is now totally obsolete and relegated to geezerdom) was about a friend who wanted to call his cousin in Nawlins. He calls the operator to get his number, and the operator replies, “That number is CApital 5-1212.” There is a long pause, and the operator asks if he got the number. His friend answers, “Yeah, I got it, but, how do you make a capital 5?” It’s funnier when Justin tells it.
I like the Cadillac Eldorado depicted in the Hidden Valet Ranch comic.
Now, don’t be shocked, but ol’ Justin amped up the Cajun accent for the cooking shows (I originally had “videos” there, I’ve been viewing too many YouTube cooking vids). I’d see him on interviews and things and it was not nearly as over-the-op.
@Danny Boy – London Derriere – Thank you, your comment made me realize that I had focused on the wrong detail (once again, I was falling asleep as I wrote)
Jim has a hypotenuse; therefore he’s a right triangle, and, I realized later, he is actually drawn as such.
However, l when I looked over at Jim after reading the texts and document, I found it not immediately obvious that he’s a right triangle; So, for me it created “cognitive dissonance” that makes it a bit more challenging for me (and I’d guess many others) to figure out the comic. (A blind trig-savvy person reading a story version of the panel would get it much more quickly because the reader would recognize Jim’s type by the mention of Jim’s “hypotenuse” and would not be biased by the picture.)
I’m grateful today that CIDU figured out the comic so that I could get back to my work quickly.
Mark in Boston – This past year plus I have been doing more baking than I have in years – and all from packaged mixes which I also have not used in years.
Since due a combination of our Diabetes and of not entering baked items at the Long Island Fair (tri county, county fair) in some years I had gotten rid of excess baking pans including my square layer pans. I had kept the round ones (as they have a swing around piece on the bottom so the cake does not get stuck in the pan). Of course in the ensuing time, I had forgotten what I had got rid of and what I still had.
We bought cornbread mix. No square baking pan. Actual true comment to self when I bake to it and realized this – “Hmmm, I can’t bake the cornbread in the round pans because “cornbread are square and pie are round”.” I did find a ceramic baking pan which was square and the correct size.
It must be ‘clam before the storm’ week . . .
Grawlix: In the series, ‘As Time Goes By’, featuring Dame Judi Dench and Geoffrey Palmer, Lionel’s father’s wife drives a Caddy like that, complete with “Dixie Song’ [Fields of Cotton] as the horn [which I’m now hearing somewhere in my subdivision].
I once owned a Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham, which got about eight gallons to the mile. It was a fun car, tho; I wish I could’ve afforded to keep it. And no, I didn’t have longhorns on front; I was in Wisconsin, after all.
I bake cornbread in a cast-iron skillet.
I have a set of cornbread baking pans that make them to look like ears of corn. But I rarely or never make cornbread any more so they are rusty from hanging on the wall.