Site Comments, February 2022 Edition

This is the next edition of “Site Comments”, a parallel to the “Random Comments” threads, and meant to relieve the density of commenting in those. While the Random Comments threads will continue to welcome comics-related (and semi-comics-related) topics, as well as life-in-general, this Site Comments thread is the place for suggestions / complaints / questions / musings on how this site is organized and operates. So if you have thoughts about, say, the placement of Recent Comments versus Recent Posts lists, this would be the place for that.

(That is not to say this is the only form of feedback available. Among other routes, you can write to Editors at the submissions address, submissions dot cidu at gmail dot com. But it is explicitly intended to funnel off site commentary from the Random Comments threads.)

This will also be a place for site managers to post questions and requests for ideas, along with operational notices like warnings of theme experimentation coming up etc., besides alerts in separate sticky posts.

At the same time as inaugurating this kind of thread, it is time for yet another rollover of the venerable Random Comments thread. The one about to close, with 369 comments, is “Random Comments, Late 2020 Edition” , and the one getting started contemporaneous with this Site Comments is “Random Comments, February 2022 Edition”.

Also: A list of the site’s most recent comments can be found in the left sidebar (under “folder” icon 2nd tab). A database of all the comments, compiled by larK, is here, and can also be found linked in the left sidebar menu.

And the site’s former FAQ is here, representing the unique voice and outlook of CIDU Bill. An update for current addresses and notes is now available here, and can also be found linked in the left sidebar menu.


  1. New Site Comments and Random Comments threads have been started. If you’re interested, please review both at your convenience.

    There are a number of links associated with these changes requiring updates. (Each one points to its predecessor , they each point to each other, and menu items point to the new editions.) Please check these out too. Remaining to update is the Index listed in the menu .

    If you find errors or have suggestions, please either post a comment here, or email to the usual contact address, submissions dot cidu at gmail dot com. Thanks!

  2. How do you like a comment? Sometimes one of my comments is liked, but I don’t see that option on other people’s comments.

  3. I do Likes from the Word Press Reader mode. It shows an outline star near any post or comment, fills it in if I click to like the item, and also shows a count of likes and sometimes usernames.

  4. And I can do Likes from one version of the admin page for Comments. It just shows a star either outline or filled, depending on whether I have done a like. But not numbers or usernames.

    There is a setting which will put likes onto the regular web page interface! For everybody to see and deal with, just as on some social medias. [Ignore my neo-plural there.] We tried it briefly once for CIDU. Announced I think as a one-day experiment, it was shouted down and removed after about an hour. It doesn’t go well with the ethos.

  5. Now that the kerfuffle about the old CIDU URL has settled down, I think it’s time for a loud round of virtual applause for getting not only Bill’s old “venting spleen” URL restarted very quickly, but most of all for redirecting the site to a wonderful, new, very short URL: – well done, Mitch, and thank you! (And if there were others involved, thanks to them, too!)

  6. Just a reminder, everyone, we always need YOUR selections to refill the queue.

    Actual puzzling CIDU comics especially needed! Always in shortage!

    OY and LOL always welcome, for the weekend collections. As Bill established this practice, anything that strikes you as a groaner (or good word-play), or a good laugh, can be sent in and almost automatically published with almost no editorial scrutiny.

    Eewwww need to be something else as well – funny enough to be Eewww-LOL, or puzzling enough to be Ewwww-CIDU. But please, not just “how emetic can they get?”.

    Synchronicities can be fuzzy about timing, but the similarity of content or theme should be striking, and not predictable by calendar. OR the comics could be good LOLs or OYs or CIDU on their own, worth seeing as such and with the timing coincidence as an added fillip.

    Arlo Award candidates will still be tagged or discussed as such. Full Arlo Page material won’t work, we aren’t managing the separate Arlo Page any longer.

    While we never want to encourage simple bashing of unsuccessful comics, we have been trying occasional collections of comics that seem close to working well, but fall down in some particular and are disappointing. A tag you can use when sending these in could be “Oopsies” or “Almosts”.

    But again, most needed: actual puzzling CIDUs, as daily bread!

    Thanks everyone, for reading and commenting, and also of course for helping supply material for all to enjoy!

  7. Oops, I thought “marcia” (in the new site subheader) was only supposed to be “Brady”; I didn’t realize that it was also Italian until I put “alla” into an online translator.

  8. (Details omitted intentionally…)

    Okay, if anyone else from here is in on that auction, we should make sure we’re not pointlessly bidding each other up.

  9. @Mitch4 – My guess is that you are bidding on an “Encyclopedia”, but without at least a few of the omitted details, nobody here will be able to be sure.

  10. The point of my comment about auction was just to avoid counter productive conflict of bids. Anyone not involved in an auction at the moment should just ignore it.
    Further info for those who think it might apply to them, the bidding will close on 3/7 or maybe 3/8 I forget.

  11. Speaking of URLs, I watched some of the Jeopardy college championships. The contestants did not come up with what URL stands for. I started to say “Universal” before correcting to “Uniform”.

  12. “Okay, if anyone else from here is in on that auction, we should make sure we’re not pointlessly bidding each other up.”

    Well, I dropped out. Still watching the auction – they keep extending for 5 minutes at a go if they get another bid. It’s getting to silly amounts.

    This is for the domain name that expired.

  13. We don’t need it for our operation. But it would be unfortunate if the purchaser used it for something that would leave people confused.

  14. For that amount of money, I sincerely doubt that the purchaser has altruistic intentions. Perhaps it is time to place some pre-emptive documention about CIDU on Wikipedia, including accurate information about the correct URLs. Do we have any experienced Wiki-Editors here?

  15. Here’s an odd detail that puzzles me: why did the “Seriously” post get tagged as type “image”? Most other posts (such as “Smells like…Spirit“) don’t have any type at all. Is this just another example of WordpresS being inconsistent?

  16. More like WP being consistent with its own idea of what’s what. I could have changed it if I had noticed. But I think the reason it picked that in the first place is that the post didn’t contain any text, or nothing besides an image.

  17. Kilby says: Most other posts (such as “Smells like…Spirit“) don’t have any type at all

    It’s called “Standard” internally and just is not displayed. The WP term for this ‘type’ btw is “Post Format” and it seems to be restricted to a list of six, selected thru a drop-down selector in the edit page. The choices are Aside, Image, Link, Quote, Standard, and Video. I haven’t learned about the effects, if any, of choosing a different one.

  18. The answer to the mystery has been revealed. The old CIDU URL was purchased for a Cambodian betting website, in a ridiculous attempt to slightly increase their traffic. On the other hand, if they have that kind of cash to waste, they must make sizable profits.

  19. Kilby said: “The old CIDU URL was purchased for a Cambodian betting website, in a ridiculous attempt to slightly increase their traffic. ” Yes, that was weird!

    But now it points to what looks like a Word Press “getting started” site, with the name “Comics I Don’t Understand” (!!) and a system-provided sample landing page and first linked page. Those are the screenshots below.

  20. Having just mentioned the original “Arlo Page” in the Shakesperian “Wrong Hands” post… Even if our editors do not have access to manage that site, it might be worth informing the Bickels that the back-link that is supposed to return from there to the CIDU website now lands at a fairly obnoxious betting page.

  21. Woops! We sailed past a sort of numerical landmark while I wasn’t looking. That was 70K published comments. This one will be 70,003 probably.

  22. The URL was returned to a “parked WP site” for a while, but now is again an Indonesian gambling site, altho a different one.

  23. @Kilby and @Michael Cook, that’s what I thought too, but didn’t want to be impolite about mentioning other routes for contributing. In a way, “topic drift” has traditionally been able to handle the introduction of a different comic than the post was originally covering. However, that has usually been more of a tangent and less of a non sequitur.

    Perhaps we could clarify a route for readers to post for discussion their CIDUs, other than by mailing in suggestions and waiting; and not forcing a sharp turn in an existing thread about some other comic. I wonder if our RANDOM COMMENTS thread is the right place for that? Or perhaps institute a third continuing thread?

  24. Just to cover all the bases (see also EDM), I think Random Comments is the correct location for anyone who cannot (or does not want to) use e-mail for a CIDU submission. As this issue aptly demonstrates, it isn’t a good idea to conduct one discussion in three different locations, so if a CIDU submission does come in to Random Comments, I think it should be moved (and not just copied) to a new post.

  25. Please note that the CIDU editorial team has added two new co-editors, whose monikers you will be seeing on upcoming posts (and also anonymously working on the list-like OY and LOL posts); and in e-correspondence with you when you send in comics to the submission address. Please make PHSIIICIDU and ZBICYCLIST welcome — both of whom you probably already know from commenting!


    We’re going to succumb to Independence Day fervor and have a potpourri posting on the Fourth, with any and every kind of comic, whether funny, punny, or puzzling, as long as it relates to that holiday.

    But it’s scheduled to go live on the day! So we need items that are already out there! Thanks!

  27. [sorry, the Holodeck CIDU post was not meant to be posted yet. My apologies to those who commented. Maybe it will preserve your comments into the actual publication next Monday.]

  28. @ Mitch – To which time zone did you move the CIDU server? Will this result in posts appearing even earlier, or later?

    P.S. Personally, I would be in favor of using 6am Pacific time as the standard post appearance slot.
    I have no idea whether this can be set up as the default in WordPress, but it would mean that most US readers would be able to take a fair shot at commenting in the morning, whereas we Europeans would have to wait until 3pm (these times are equivalent, of course, but the current setup gives Europe an unfair advantage, because most of America is asleep when the posts appear).

  29. “P.S. Personally, I would be in favor of using 6am Pacific time as the standard post appearance slot.”

    Then it would make you no difference if it were 8 AM Central?

    Or 9 AM Eastern?

  30. It of course does not matter how you set the time, but now that you mention it, 9am Pacific (noon Eastern, 6pm Europe) would probably be the best (or “fairest”) solution (daylight hours for the whole western hemisphere). The only question is whether it would be simple to set that time as an easy-to-use default, and avoid a manual setting for every post. Although it is obviously possible to set the exact hour† for each post’s appearance, I have been assuming that the “standard” appearance slot would be midnight for the server’s selected time zone. Nine am Pacific time would mean midnight in Cambodia: a very odd, but perhaps appropriate coincidence, in view of what happened to this site’s original URL.

    P.S. CIDU Bill (†) used to create a separate post for each hour of his 24-hour (birthday) projects, but he implied that it was at least slightly difficult to get it all set up correctly.

  31. BTW, when Kevin A mentions “For those … who … wonder about editorm’s quote from the final chapter” it happens that he is correct and I did write the editorial note for the last comic, the Shoe, as reflected in the posting stamp “JULY 17, 2022 by EDITORM“.

    But please note that WordPress only uses single posting account attributions, and may be misleading when more than one of the co-editors has had a hand in any particular post (blog entry). This is especially likely with the multi-comic posts presenting lists, like the Saturday OYs or Sunday LOLs. In fact yesterday’s OYs post, though stamped “JULY 16, 2022 by EDITORM” , included a couple of comics inserted and remarked by other editors.

  32. The password thing doesn’t work for me – I enter my WordPress password (the same one that lets me log in to post this), the whole page flickers and I’m back at the top with “enter your password” showing. The exact same thing happens if I click Enter without putting anything in the password box. And I can’t get in to post a comment on that item… I don’t know if anyone else can, it doesn’t say any comments have been posted but I’m not sure if that would be hidden. I do see the CIDU tag.

  33. Thanks for the data.
    The mechanism is not user/password pair but just item/password like lock/key, with a single password for everyone to use.
    The experiment was in service of figuring out some solutions to how to let a non-wp member do a “guest post” in collaboration with an editor, and see the successive drafts. The password mechanism wasn’t the best solution!

  34. (And I’ve unpublished the experiment password item, if you’re reading these comments and wondering what we’re talking about)

  35. The text said “… enter your password here …”, but I wasn’t about to entrust any password of mine to a random input field (I was sure that it was just an experiment, since there was no matching field for User-ID). Therefore, I tried entering your password – in the hope that whoever set it up had a sense of humor. Alas, that didn’t work, either.

  36. Kilby, your joke does not take into account that in fact the lock-and-key password had previously been mailed to you!:-)

  37. I was working from my phone, sitting in a hospital waiting room, and had no access to that e-mail until this morning.

  38. Carl Fink says “Have you considered adding “Submit a Comic You Don’t Understand” as a link on the left side of the page?”

    Thanks for bringing up the idea, Carl. I was going to reply that our Plan doesn’t support Forms. When what should I discover by experimental clicking but a page of Form Responses, all labelled “[Comics I Don’t Understand] Contact”. When I say all of them , that’s all five. Dates ranging from January 21, 2018 (CIDU Bill saying “Does this work?”) to August 10, 2020 (somebody wanting to sell us digital promotion services). But the three in between were actually CIDU suggestions!

    So in principle, yes it could work! Meanwhile, if anybody spots and can describe where on the site a Contact button or form can be seen, please send in a description of where to find it!

    (Followups to where this is duplicate posted as a comment in Site Comments, please.)

  39. For the moment I’m dealing with the unearthed Contact Form CIDU suggestions. All 3 submitters have been seen as commenters at least a few times, though only one within this year. (The Contact Form results were all 2018.) Hmm, should we check with them before using these?

  40. The current contact form is putting its results somewhere on the site. The new one I’ve started working on is using email; I’m looking for the setting to have it saved like the Contact form.

    The current contact form BTW was made before the Block Editor and is in Classic editor access — I haven’t opened it that way but expect some solid HTML. For the new one I’m trying the block editor but for now leaving it very clunky.

    After seeing that sometimes the email doesn’t provide the most reliable way of getting stuff to us, I was thinking that having it show up saved on site has some advantages. Brian, what was on your mind in asking this? Do you see some advantage for either method.

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