How cartoonists at a convention decide what bar to go to.
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I suppose I feel I should point out that the whirling dervishes are not in fact poets (note the present tense). The original order was founded by a poet. They don’t wear turbans; they have a special hat called the dervish hat. Also the comic strikes me as kind of racist? I’m not a fan of jokes based around racial stereotypes, even if it’s fairly harmless like “Middle Easterners wear turbans, so weird, amirite?”
Yes, Mitch, and that’s what makes it a little racist. If they picked someone who actually wore turbans it would be fine. Instead, they picked a group based on how all them A-rabs in Turkey wear towels on their heads, ha ha.
MythTickle could have picked a different group that actually wore turbans, but it’s the whirling that would produce the electricity.
More than I thought I wanted to know about this comes from Wikipedia, by way of Copilot:
“Whirling dervishes wear a tall conical hat called a Sikke, while only the sheikhs and certain deputies of the Mevlevi Order wear turbans.
Headwear of Whirling Dervishes
During the Sema ceremony, whirling dervishes, known as semazens, wear a Sikke, a tall, conical hat that symbolizes the tombstone and the death of the ego. The Sikke is typically brown, gray, or black, and is worn over the head along with a long white robe (tennûre) and a white jacket (destegül) after removing the black cloak that represents death and detachment from worldly life. The Sikke is not a turban, but a distinct ceremonial hat specific to the Mevlevi tradition
Use of Turbans
Turbans are reserved for the sheikhs of the Mevlevi Order and occasionally for their deputies. These turbans are symbolic and carry spiritual significance, often associated with mystical meanings and the authority of the wearer within the order
Lay members or ordinary dervishes do not wear turbans during the Sema; they wear the Sikke instead
Symbolism
Sikke (hat of dervishes): Represents the ego’s tomb and spiritual rebirth
Turban (worn by sheikhs): Denotes spiritual authority and connection to the lineage of the Prophet Muhammad, with mystical and ceremonial significance.
In summary, all whirling dervishes wear the Sikke during their ritual whirling, while turbans are exclusive to the sheikhs and certain deputies, highlighting the hierarchical and symbolic distinctions within the Mevlevi Order.”
I note that the desire for “death of the ego” occurs in many religious traditions, Buddhism and Christianity just to name two.
I suppose I feel I should point out that the whirling dervishes are not in fact poets (note the present tense). The original order was founded by a poet. They don’t wear turbans; they have a special hat called the dervish hat. Also the comic strikes me as kind of racist? I’m not a fan of jokes based around racial stereotypes, even if it’s fairly harmless like “Middle Easterners wear turbans, so weird, amirite?”
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I suppose the cartoonist was just needing some way to bring in turbans, to pull off the turbines pun.
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Yes, Mitch, and that’s what makes it a little racist. If they picked someone who actually wore turbans it would be fine. Instead, they picked a group based on how all them A-rabs in Turkey wear towels on their heads, ha ha.
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MythTickle could have picked a different group that actually wore turbans, but it’s the whirling that would produce the electricity.
More than I thought I wanted to know about this comes from Wikipedia, by way of Copilot:
“Whirling dervishes wear a tall conical hat called a Sikke, while only the sheikhs and certain deputies of the Mevlevi Order wear turbans.
Headwear of Whirling Dervishes
During the Sema ceremony, whirling dervishes, known as semazens, wear a Sikke, a tall, conical hat that symbolizes the tombstone and the death of the ego. The Sikke is typically brown, gray, or black, and is worn over the head along with a long white robe (tennûre) and a white jacket (destegül) after removing the black cloak that represents death and detachment from worldly life. The Sikke is not a turban, but a distinct ceremonial hat specific to the Mevlevi tradition
Use of Turbans
Turbans are reserved for the sheikhs of the Mevlevi Order and occasionally for their deputies. These turbans are symbolic and carry spiritual significance, often associated with mystical meanings and the authority of the wearer within the order
Lay members or ordinary dervishes do not wear turbans during the Sema; they wear the Sikke instead
Symbolism
Sikke (hat of dervishes): Represents the ego’s tomb and spiritual rebirth
Turban (worn by sheikhs): Denotes spiritual authority and connection to the lineage of the Prophet Muhammad, with mystical and ceremonial significance.
In summary, all whirling dervishes wear the Sikke during their ritual whirling, while turbans are exclusive to the sheikhs and certain deputies, highlighting the hierarchical and symbolic distinctions within the Mevlevi Order.”
I note that the desire for “death of the ego” occurs in many religious traditions, Buddhism and Christianity just to name two.
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