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  1. I agree that “deserve” represents undeserved consideration on her part. They don’t “deserve” it, but it’s still intelligent policy. Replace the word with “should“, and the statement would not be so puzzling.

  2. She doesn’t run the trails which might cross their paths, and presents this as consideration for them (not forcing them to deal with a human who might distract them from the deer) rather than fear that she might get shot.

    Of course, given that this is Frazz, there’s a non-zero possibility that ‘people with phones are more dangerous than people with guns’ is actually intended.

  3. The girl does not like hunters. See

    Ms. Plainwell is explaining that, despite that, the hunters are there legally and deserve to be allowed to hunt. She doesn’t run in the woods then so as not to bother the hunters and not to chase the deer away from the hunters.

    And yes, the joke is that drivers with phones are more dangerous than hunters with guns.

  4. @ Arthur – That font that Mallett was using ten years ago is truly hideous. At first I wondered whether it was a parody in which some amateur had replaced the dialog.

  5. Kilby, I think it was hand-lettered. For instance, no two capital Gs in the blue balloon match each other.

  6. I stand corrected, and I owe the Malletts an apology. Both strips appear to be hand lettered. My presumptive criticism was based on the double OOs in “look” and “shoot”.

  7. Hunting is a contention in the so-called “culture wars”. The “urban elite” supposedly look down on hunting as boorish and cruel. The “many fine people” object that this as class chauvinism and elitism and cultural intolerence. And respond to charges of cruelty as hypocritical an ignorant considering the meat industry and wildlife dynamics make this not so simple.

    In the culture wars (if they exist) Mallet is clearly an “urban elite” but doesn’t want to be pegged as a knee-jerk reactionary one. So he is deliberately showing his magnimity in expressing that hunting is as culturally respectable as running (which come to think of it is as “urban elite” as latte sipping.)

  8. I don’t object to hunting on the basis of cruelty (since when was nature ever kind?) so much as on a basis of fairness. You can’t give the deer high-powered rifles with scopes and night vision.

  9. >>>(since when was nature ever kind?) so much as on a basis of fairness.

    Since when was nature ever fair?

    My feeling is, to take pleasure in hunting means taking pleasure in killing an animal. … And that’s not right. I do try to be open minded and not put my cultural bias into play. I have a lefty-friend raised by hippies who has taken to hunting for food in which he sees this as a connection to existential being and need. In which case he doesn’t find the killing “fun” per se… well, I can see it as a craft and work that should be done well and with pride…. but I don’t think it should be an activity pursued as a “pastime” to be enjoyed. I guess he figures it is enjoyable in the same sense that going to church is “enjoyable” but…. well, I guess I disagree.

  10. A friend in Europe has already posted twice this year about joggers killed by hunters near his home in Switzerland. No charges against the hunters, who thought the people in fluorescent running gear were deer.

  11. In the region where I live, we have a massive overpopulation of deer. Literally thousands of them inhabit the forest, fields, backyards and highways of deep southern Illinois. Not a night goes by that someone driving in the area doesn’t collide with a deer. Sometimes several drivers do soHunters here perform a valuable public service.

  12. You know those things you put on the fender of your car that make a sound too high for humans to hear but that scares away the deer? Stephen Wright got one but he accidentally installed it backward and now everywhere he goes, a bunch of deer chase his car.

  13. Grr – wasn’t finished typing that post! Over the years, I have had to replace four different cars after hitting a deer. I don’t hunt, but I’m thankful for those who do. Every deer they harvest is one less that may jump out in front of me on my drive home. And no high-powered rifles, either. Illinois only allows shotguns with slugs during deer season, with an effective range of maybe 50 yards. Like most things in life, there is more than one side to every story.

  14. @ DanV – In Germany, hunting rights for various areas are leased out, and the leaseholder is responsible for monitoring population levels (primarily deer and wild boar). Since there are no predators left in Germany(*), controlled hunting is the only way to keep numbers down to sustainable levels.
    P.S. (*) – A very small number of wolves have been reintroduced in a few areas, but this is insignificant in comparison to the numbers of deer & boar.

  15. The leaseholder also has to indemnify farmers for crop damage above a certain level. Deer tend not to be problematic, wild pigs can wipe out whole fields. I think they generally have insurance for that, but it’s a thing they have to watch out for. Where I live the guy who has the hunting lease is also the biggest farmer, so I don’t know what he does.

  16. @DanV, Overpopulation was the reason given by people in northern Michigan (lower peninsula). Then I found out that when it *wasn’t* deer season, they’d feed the deer, and leave out salt licks.

    One guy whose cabin I stayed in had it set up so that the area where he fed them could be seen from his living room window, and he’d sit there a lot during the off season to acclimate the deer to his presence. Then when hunting season opened, he could shoot them from the window. He was so proud of his setup.

    Neighbors of his also fed wild turkeys and ducks and such, waiting for hunting season.

    That was the last time I visited that area.

  17. @Kilby, “…no predators left in Germany” fills me with sadness. The US was heading that way, too, but I hope it’s turning around now.

  18. @ Chak – Years ago at a small museum on top of a well-known mountain in the middle of Germany, I saw a very disturbing information panel, listing the last known sighting (usually killing) for a long list of large game animals, going back at least 150 or 200 years. I don’t remember the entire list, but I know it contained at least one kind of bear, “lynx”, and “wolf” (both of the latter are currently making a small [supervised] comebacks in Germany). Other animals that have been re-introduced (on a small scale) include moose, and the “Wisent“, similar to the American “bison”.
    There was a tragic incident about 12 years ago with a “troublesome bear” that entered Germany over the southern border. Because the bear showed little tendency to avoid contact with humans (leading to a number of scary incidents), the Bavarian government issued a very unpopular decision to have it hunted down. This decision was widely criticised in the press, but sometimes I wonder if I would have felt as strongly against it if I had been living in a forest in the German Alps back then.

  19. ” he’d sit there a lot during the off season to acclimate the deer to his presence. Then when hunting season opened, he could shoot them from the window. He was so proud of his setup.”

    I try not to be bias, judgemental, or opinionated but… I can’t feel that is anything but being a sick f###.

  20. ” You can’t give the deer high-powered rifles with scopes and night vision.”

    Hunting deer at night is generally illegal. Partly because “spotlighting” is unfair to the deer, partly because shooting in the dark makes it hard to tell what’s behind your target.

  21. @Woozy, Yeah, I thought it was pretty shameful, but apparently in that area it was much admired.

    I grew up in Michigan, but I don’t go back there. Too many people like him.

  22. I don’t like hunting. Having said that, I find it tolerable if the person hunting eats the animal he shoots or donates the meat to a food kitchen or such and does not just take a trophy – I find the latter horrible, cruel and terribly disturbing.

    When I was in high school there was a house along the way with a fellow student,although I did not her before we started walking to school together as I would pass her house along the way and we would be walking at the same time. The first time it was terribly cold and she said that her parents would drive us (today I would have a fit if my child walked into a house and accepted a ride from the parents of a girl that she knew only from walking to school together for a couple of months) due to the cold. I went in the house and there were trophy heads from her dad’s shooting all over – really upset me. Separately, I read that when Sagamore Hill, Theodore Roosevelt’s home, was first opened to the public, the propeller that the family had in the house from his late son Quentin’s World War I plane (he had died in a crash during the war) was not on display, it had been removed from the house. When the director was asked why it was removed by Archie Roosevelt, another son, he was told that they were concerned that children coming through might be upset. My reaction on hearing this – What about all the “dead animals” in the house – did they not think that might upset a lot of children also – young Meryl for one! Lots of trophy animals on display in his house. (Last I was there the propellerwas in the Old Orchard House museum on the property which was Theodore Roosevelt Jr’s home.)

  23. A school around here has complained that hunters are firing too close to the school, its playgrounds and children walking to and from school.

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