The Salina Stockade [OT]


I just wanted to share with y’all what might possibly be the most hideous team logo in baseball history.

Perhaps not coincidentally, this is also one of the worst teams in the history of professional baseball and has actually been dropped from their league, and their entire 2018 system will consist of a couple dozen road games 2000 miles from their home city, which is theoretical anyway because they don’t have a stadium.


  1. I gotta agree it’s ugly. At first I thought the pieces of bat
    were sticking out of its nose. Then I realized it was its mouth.
    Even then, it took a while to figure out they meant it to look
    as though it had bitten through the bat.

  2. That’s pretty bad. It’s not offensive, like Chief Wahoo, but it’s damn ugly. Like Arthur, I first thought the pieces of bat were sticking out of its nose. I think you might be hard-pressed to find a high school with that bad a team logo. I suppose they’re really short on cash, but getting a halfway decent graphic designer to come up with a logo shouldn’t cost all that much.

  3. Depends. Your halfway-decent graphic designer has to put in some time looking at all the other (trademarked) logos, to avoid duplication and legal entanglement.

    And, of course, bad logos are memorable, and that’s the end goal. A competently-drawn but forgettable logo isn’t better. Team logos are for promotion and advertising, not artistic value.

  4. Unfortunately, the quality of a team’s playing ability is not necessarily indicative of its profitability. These two factors normally corresponds fairly closely, but there are exceptions. There are MLB (and presumably also NFL, NBA and NHL) teams that lose more often than they win, but still generate sufficient revenue for their owners.

  5. While it’s true that bad logos are memorable, sports teams want to be able to sell lots of merchandise featuring that logo. A team that’s only been around a couple of years isn’t likely to have many die-hard fans willing to wear their merch no matter what it looks like. It’s even harder to build a fanbase when you can’t play any home games.

    There’s actually pro baseball in Germany, and I spent some time looking at their logos. At the top level there’s a fondness for initials in a “baseball ” font (like the Red Sox or the As), but nothing too bad. The lowest level seems to be by state and in Lower Saxony, there are a couple that are pretty cheesy (I’m looking at you Bad Harzburg Krodos), but nothing as bad as this.

  6. This intrigued me, so I googled to find a little more. It’s a pretty neat story. Calling them the worst team is both true and a little unfair, since they appear to be a team that is there purely to exist on an ad hoc basis to get people into the Pecos system to get a little practice, and then move on to other teams.

  7. I’m not sure about “unfortunately”: teams can deserve profitability for reasons other than their ability.

    About half the teams in any league are sub-par, after all.

  8. Ian, they had one of the worst records in the history of ptofessional baseball, so I stand by the description.

    Granted, they have a reason for bring this bad, but so did the 1962 Mets and 1899 Spiders.

  9. @Bill: I’ve never actually seen a game and I’m only vaguely aware of it. I have a suspicion that the quality of play is at best weak AAA ball. While I was looking at logos, I discovered that there are actually two state league teams near me. Well, 1.5. The team that’s closest to me partners with another team in order to be able to field a full roster.

    There’s also professional American football. They play in the summer.

  10. @ Bill – I had never heard of anyone playing baseball anywhere in Germany, but I was surprised to discover that there are at least four operations Berlin, although they appear to be little league and/or amateur organizations. The “Berlin Flamingoes” proudly report that they made it into the top (national) German league, but they also show a picture of a sponsor making a significant donation to the club: a box of baseballs. Wow. (I don’t think you missed anything.)

  11. Kilby, when you say “I don’t think you missed anything,” you forget that in a couple of months I’m going to be watching the Salina Stockade play.

    So clearly my standards are not very high.

  12. Looking at that list Shrug posted, I’d say Wikipedia is cheating a little bit. A good chunk of those players are the children of American servicemen who were stationed in Germany. Most of the rest were born in the 19th century, during a period of heavy German migration to the US. I didn’t see anybody who would be the equivalent of, say, Dirk Nowitzki.

    Poking around in some of the club rosters, there do seem to be a couple of Americans (and a whole lot of Spaniards, oddly) on some of the teams, so maybe it’s a bit like European basketball.

  13. It’s not necessary to check the league rosters to see whether there are any Germans present. All you have to do is read the (German) sports headlines. If there is a German anywhere in a North American league, that team’s results get at least occasional commentary. Other than that, all you can find (at best) are the scores. For German sports reporting, the NBA consists of “Dallas” (meaning “Nowitzki”), sometimes Atlanta (“Schröder”), and 30 anonymous teams. Hockey is a little better (because there are more Germans in the league), but it still boils down to Edmonton, Washington, NYC, and then “the rest”.

  14. Bill, the logo is what you found as WTF? There are so many other questions. Why would you name the team after a kind of building? What’s next, the Edmonton Edifice? Oklahoma Office? Louisville Library? Wouldn’t Leavenworth be a better place in Kansas for a team called the “Stockade”? Why did the Can-Am league agree to this arrangement when they have an even number of teams? Do people in the Can-Am area even know where Salina is? What players are going to join a team for three weeks of play? And, most importantly, how does the owner plan to make money? (The owner of our local American Association team claims that he’s never made money even though sellouts were routine for a good decade at least.) Is this like one of those college games like where Appalachian State gets paid by Michigan to visit and lose?

  15. At the start of every league season, the local paper publishes a list of “Oregon” players. Now, what makes a player worthy of inclusion on the list is, shall we say, very broad. It includes people who grew up here, played all their youth sports here, and then went on to success. It includes people who were born here, but then moved elsewhere and began their sports career there and never actually played their sport here. And it includes people who are from somewhere else, but played for one of the colleges here. For hockey only, it also includes players who played major-junior hockey here (hockey fans know what I’m talking about) because otherwise the list would be VERY short… there just isn’t a long, proud history of hockey here because the ponds and lakes stay liquid all winter. There is a famous figure skater from around here, but her “home” rink was paved over and she no longer resides in the state.

    On the other hand, I am told that the Seattle Mariners became “the” American major league team in Japan, despite their record of futility, because that’s the team that Ichiro Suzuki played for, until it wasn’t.

  16. James Pollock-

    Ichiro just signed again to play another season with Seattle, so I guess the Japanese fans will have to dust off their old Mariners’ hats.

    Actually, the Japanese connection to the Mariners is much deeper: until just a few years ago, Nintendo held majority ownership of the club.

  17. ” why do I have to pay foreign taxes on the stocks I own?”

    Because you own foreign stocks, would be my guess. You don’t own any NOA stock because NOA (Nintendo of America) is closely-held, and not publicly-traded. NOA was originally based in NY, so they’re probably incorporated in NY, too.

  18. Right, I own Nintendo stocks, a foreign company. So when you say technically Nintendo is an American company, you mean Nintendo of America, which isn’t really such a shocking fact or even really much of a technicality.

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