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  1. Unknown's avatar

    Back in the day, tomato juice was frequently served on flights. Don’t ask me why, though. Maybe because it came in those convenient little cans. I think the association died out in the late 70s as air travel became increasingly common and availability moved down the socio-economic scale. Which, I guess, makes this something of a geezer reference.

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    Tomato juice is supposed to taste better during a flight. Something to due with cabin pressure I think.

  3. Unknown's avatar

    Thanks for the explanatory suggestions.

    I enjoyed noticing how his remark matches the very recent formula “I could just murder a [foodstuff]!” but with a different vocabulary.

  4. Unknown's avatar

    And speaking of the “Toe MAY toe, Toe MAH toe” trope, recently I’ve been noticing a place nearby called “Potato Potato” but with pronunciation diacritics as in the picture. I was going to say “a franchise restaurant I pass by fairly regularly ” but their website makes them look like maybe a one-off. Anyhow, I’m not sure if their notation is standard for the sound needed in the second word — the a with the upward curve (is that called a breve?) I thought was something else, like æ as in “the cat sat on the mat”.

    https://www.potatopotatous.com/

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    Mitch4, channeling what I remember from grade school phonics, we used the breve for short vowels. But we never used the ae ligature. So it’s likely not a matter of accuracy, but of how many people would get the joke.

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    Right, I was using the ae ligature to indicate the BadCatHat vowel, because it is something like that in IPA, but I know it is less common in dictionary notations. Now, when you say breve was used to indicate a short vowel, that’s fine as far as it goes, but I don’t know what you would consider a “short A” to mean in English. I would think “short A” is that same BadCatHat sound and another designation, maybe “broad A”, is needed for the PapaMama vowel…

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    Even today, tomato juice is always one of the beverage options on airplane flights. Unless they are a big fan of it, most people don’t have tomato juice in their homes, and it is not on many restaurant menus. But they will drink it on planes, because it’s available and a novelty. Maybe some people come to associate tomato juice with air flight in a Pavlovian way?

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    The Wright Glider looks good, but 2 pilots & no controls won’t fly.
    The joke would have worked with one pilot.

  9. Unknown's avatar

    I think tomato juice is available on most flights today primarily to make bloody Mary’s. (My apologies, auto correct will not allow me to remove the apostrophe.)

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    Agreed with the “better on a flight” bit. Here’s one report on it: https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/whyy-why-do-we-drink-tomato-juice-on-planes/67404/

    From the article:
    “We learned that tomato juice being on ground level is rather — I’m not saying moldy, but it tastes earthy, it tastes not overly fresh,” says Derenthal. “However, as soon as you have it at 30,000 feet, tomato juice shows, let’s say, its better side. It shows more acidity, it has some mineralic taste with it, and it’s very refreshing.”

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    Now it is a lot of decades ago – I had not even started dating my husband Robert back then – but I have flown 2 round trips in my life, both of them the same summer. I was editor in chief of our college yearbook in 1973 and so got to fly down to the company which printed it for us with the prior year’s editors to proof read it in Dallas, Texas. Later that same summer I flew to/from Mexico with a girl friend (one of those prior year editors) for a vacation trip. I have no memory of being offered tomato juice (or blood as my younger sister called it at home) on any of the four flights.

    I was not happy. I did not like flying I felt as if there was a giant invisible hand pushing me into the seat all the time we were up in the air.

    That November after these flights I got a reason to never fly again. I started dating Robert – he suffers from motion sickness and can only travel if walking or he is driving.

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