For the record, freeze warnings refer to temperatures at which crops will die. After the first one or two actual freezes, they stop issuing the warnings because they’re pointless: the crop are dead. “Commonplace and common knowledge” don’t enter into it.
Kind of clever that Frazz reproduces at a meta level the situation that Caulfield posed in his earlier question.
Is this supposed to be an annoying question? Surprisingly for Caufield, this seems to be a perfectly reasonable question. (Could be off-topic, I guess, dunno if this occurs in math class.)
Even if this were a class on meteorology, if this wasn’t related to the lesson, it could have waited.
The one partial defense is that he might have sincerely wanted to know the answer instead of, per usual, just asking the question to annoy her.
My 8th grade English teacher would occasionally set aside time where we could ask questions about virtually anything. Who knows, maybe he once has a Caulfield in his class, and he learned.
Looking it up — the answer is “October 20th, unless there’s a reason to do something differently.” According to the National Weather Service’s website, Frost/Freeze/Hard Freeze advisories/watches/warnings are only issued from May 1 to Oct 20, unless they have a reason to extend it.
There comes a point in the fall where one should stop needing to get a warning that Mrs. Olsen is in a bad mood once it is commonplace and common knowledge.
I’m not sure I get this at all. Is Caulfield implying that she has reached the same point in the metaphorical Fall of her life? It would explain why she got annoyed, but I’m not quite understanding it.
““Is Frazz saying she’s always in a bad mood, or always in a bad mood whenever Caulfield opens his mouth to speak?””
Either works. I’m pretty sure that’s intended joke.
“Is this supposed to be an annoying question? Surprisingly for Caufield, this seems to be a perfectly reasonable question.”
I think it’s supposed to be annoying.
ianosmond, we got one last week.
The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, with its mention of a “killer frost”. As other people have mentioned, that means that plants will die, not people or other animals.
Also, sometime in the last week our local weather forecast said something like, “The frost has already done all the damage it’s going to, so we’re not going to mention it again this season.”
“The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, . . .”
Earworm for me; I never realized there was one other person in the world who knows (and likes?) that song, by Michael Murphey. Which, in another thread, would’ve counted as ‘someone whom I know with a famous person’s name’ . . . except that Michael Murphey [the singer/poet] isn’t quite so famous.
And now I’m playing it. Well, *I*’m not, but my Sonos is. And I no longer experience killer frosts, which I actually miss.
Andréa, I’m pretty sure that song was actually written to be an earworm rather than a song anybody would deliberately listen to.
Yeah, that quote from the NWS doesn’t sound right. Many areas won’t be at all likely to experience a freeze by 10/20. Here we had an early one for us this year, and that right before Halloween. We often don’t have the first one until well into November.
Awwww, are you disparaging my taste in music?
Thes would make a GREAT crossover comid . . .
comiC
Andrea, with all respect, you do not want Michael Murphy in your head. Fire up some Mozart and push out that earworm.
I have such a wide variety of music to choose from, it sometimes surprises me what get stuck in my head. I was getting a mani-pedi yesterday and some beautiful music was playing; my manicurist, Dinh Mykhanh (Kay), gave me the name of the Vietnamese guitarist, whom I then found on YouTube and have been playing continually. Thereby replacing Conchita Wurst. The house music system, however, is more random and yes, MM could suddenly be singing ‘Wildfire’ ‘-) . . . or Satie or Mozart or who knows whom . . . I like to be surprised.
“The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, with its mention of a “killer frost”. As other people have mentioned, that means that plants will die, not people or other animals.”
I’m going to nitpick that the song never says the “killer frost” killed either the horse or the woman. It just says that the pony broke out of the stable during a killer frost and got lost in the blizzard and the woman died in the blizzard running after the pony.
Of course, I was under the impression frosts usually occur under clear conditions, don’t they? There’s not likely to be a killer frost in a blizzard, is there?
RE: Mozart earworm – this would be mine . . .
Freeze warnings are also important to RV water systems. Unless the water system is able to be kept heated (which is generally a larger RV) one has to make sure that they winterize the water system before it is below freezing for 3 days/nights in a row and sooner than same is better and safer. If the water freezes than there will be damage to the pipes, valves and/or tanks. Since boats are also winterized I presume the same 3 days rule apply to them, but I am not sure. Normally this is needed in mid – November around the NYC area – but one has to keep an eye on the weather before same. While our little RV was at the dealer in PA this year for repair, Robert had a panic (he always is panicking over something) as the weather reports for where the dealer is located were for extended days of freezing. He sent an email to the woman we work with at the dealer’s service department and before she even read it – she was calling here asking if we had winterized. We asked her to have it done as it was needed under the circumstances – boy do they charge a lot for it – that I why we do it ourselves normally. If we travel in the RV between now and when we de-winterize in the spring we have to travel without running water – and we have done so in the past and have a system to do so.
(Larger RVs have wires around the water system that can be turned on to keep the system from freezing.)
For the record, freeze warnings refer to temperatures at which crops will die. After the first one or two actual freezes, they stop issuing the warnings because they’re pointless: the crop are dead. “Commonplace and common knowledge” don’t enter into it.
Kind of clever that Frazz reproduces at a meta level the situation that Caulfield posed in his earlier question.
Is this supposed to be an annoying question? Surprisingly for Caufield, this seems to be a perfectly reasonable question. (Could be off-topic, I guess, dunno if this occurs in math class.)
Even if this were a class on meteorology, if this wasn’t related to the lesson, it could have waited.
The one partial defense is that he might have sincerely wanted to know the answer instead of, per usual, just asking the question to annoy her.
My 8th grade English teacher would occasionally set aside time where we could ask questions about virtually anything. Who knows, maybe he once has a Caulfield in his class, and he learned.
Looking it up — the answer is “October 20th, unless there’s a reason to do something differently.” According to the National Weather Service’s website, Frost/Freeze/Hard Freeze advisories/watches/warnings are only issued from May 1 to Oct 20, unless they have a reason to extend it.
There comes a point in the fall where one should stop needing to get a warning that Mrs. Olsen is in a bad mood once it is commonplace and common knowledge.
I’m not sure I get this at all. Is Caulfield implying that she has reached the same point in the metaphorical Fall of her life? It would explain why she got annoyed, but I’m not quite understanding it.
““Is Frazz saying she’s always in a bad mood, or always in a bad mood whenever Caulfield opens his mouth to speak?””
Either works. I’m pretty sure that’s intended joke.
“Is this supposed to be an annoying question? Surprisingly for Caufield, this seems to be a perfectly reasonable question.”
I think it’s supposed to be annoying.
ianosmond, we got one last week.
The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, with its mention of a “killer frost”. As other people have mentioned, that means that plants will die, not people or other animals.
Also, sometime in the last week our local weather forecast said something like, “The frost has already done all the damage it’s going to, so we’re not going to mention it again this season.”
“The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, . . .”
Earworm for me; I never realized there was one other person in the world who knows (and likes?) that song, by Michael Murphey. Which, in another thread, would’ve counted as ‘someone whom I know with a famous person’s name’ . . . except that Michael Murphey [the singer/poet] isn’t quite so famous.
And now I’m playing it. Well, *I*’m not, but my Sonos is. And I no longer experience killer frosts, which I actually miss.
Andréa, I’m pretty sure that song was actually written to be an earworm rather than a song anybody would deliberately listen to.
Yeah, that quote from the NWS doesn’t sound right. Many areas won’t be at all likely to experience a freeze by 10/20. Here we had an early one for us this year, and that right before Halloween. We often don’t have the first one until well into November.
Awwww, are you disparaging my taste in music?
Thes would make a GREAT crossover comid . . .

comiC
Andrea, with all respect, you do not want Michael Murphy in your head. Fire up some Mozart and push out that earworm.
I have such a wide variety of music to choose from, it sometimes surprises me what get stuck in my head. I was getting a mani-pedi yesterday and some beautiful music was playing; my manicurist, Dinh Mykhanh (Kay), gave me the name of the Vietnamese guitarist, whom I then found on YouTube and have been playing continually. Thereby replacing Conchita Wurst. The house music system, however, is more random and yes, MM could suddenly be singing ‘Wildfire’ ‘-) . . . or Satie or Mozart or who knows whom . . . I like to be surprised.
“The question reminds me of the song Wildfire, with its mention of a “killer frost”. As other people have mentioned, that means that plants will die, not people or other animals.”
I’m going to nitpick that the song never says the “killer frost” killed either the horse or the woman. It just says that the pony broke out of the stable during a killer frost and got lost in the blizzard and the woman died in the blizzard running after the pony.
Of course, I was under the impression frosts usually occur under clear conditions, don’t they? There’s not likely to be a killer frost in a blizzard, is there?
RE: Mozart earworm – this would be mine . . .
Freeze warnings are also important to RV water systems. Unless the water system is able to be kept heated (which is generally a larger RV) one has to make sure that they winterize the water system before it is below freezing for 3 days/nights in a row and sooner than same is better and safer. If the water freezes than there will be damage to the pipes, valves and/or tanks. Since boats are also winterized I presume the same 3 days rule apply to them, but I am not sure. Normally this is needed in mid – November around the NYC area – but one has to keep an eye on the weather before same. While our little RV was at the dealer in PA this year for repair, Robert had a panic (he always is panicking over something) as the weather reports for where the dealer is located were for extended days of freezing. He sent an email to the woman we work with at the dealer’s service department and before she even read it – she was calling here asking if we had winterized. We asked her to have it done as it was needed under the circumstances – boy do they charge a lot for it – that I why we do it ourselves normally. If we travel in the RV between now and when we de-winterize in the spring we have to travel without running water – and we have done so in the past and have a system to do so.
(Larger RVs have wires around the water system that can be turned on to keep the system from freezing.)