There’s nothing wrong with her, so she doesn’t need a medical doctor. But what she says depresses other people, so she needs to see a spin doctor to teach her how to make other people happy when she tells them things.
Is this delayed synchronicity? We just did “spin class” two days ago. In two days will have someone with a loom in a 6 foot hole telling stories both spinning in their grace and spinning a yarn?
Their GRAVE. Arrgh.
This might have been amusing if they were in a doctor’s office, or waiting room. Here it just seems random. (Cartoonist pulls a drawing out of a cabinet.) “Here’s a drawing of two women by a copying machine. Huh, what did I have in mind for that? Oh well, I’ll come up with something.”
Why is she copying pages from a book? I did that when I was in school but that was before the internet or e-books
Strangely enough, not every book-like object is available on the internet, nor as an eBook. Sorry to shatter your world..
I’ve got several hundred books in this very room that I’m fairly sure in the wider world exist only in the form of ink on dead tree corpses. (Admittedly most of them are too old/scarce/fragile for me to think of wanting to risk damagin them on the sort of copy machine depicted in the cartoon.)
“Why is she copying pages from a book? I did that when I was in school but that was before the internet or e-books”
When I was in law school, I joined the law review. They have a task called “cite checking” that involves making sure that when the author of an article cites to a source, the source actually says what the author says it says. So each article would have a physical binder. Every cite in the article would be numbered, and each one would require a law review member go to the library, get the book the author was citing to, copy the page(s) cited to, and then highlight the text that said what the author said it said. (So if the author said such-and-such case established the rule that whatever, we’d look up that case and highlight the part that said that the rule was whatever.)
Law review articles have hundreds of citations in them, and so we’d have a fairly think binder when the task was done. Then the article would get printed, and we’d start over with the next batch.
Businesses still use copy machines, or at least large printers.
Stray thought: Remember marketing spin proclaiming the ‘paperless office” back in the dark ages of business computing?
Relating to the term Spin Doctor, here are a couple of differing “spins” on the term:
I myself took “spin” to mean “to turn” or twist words to shift their meaning as one sees fit, though spinning yard is colorful imagery.in its own right.
Shrug: there are probably fewer books not accessible digitally than you might think. Besides the number of very big players working on digitizing all books out there (not just Google and Lexis-Nexis), who often particularly focus on older ones, there’s the worldwide network of university libraries. Nearly anything is in a library somewhere. I myself have gotten PDFs of chapters out of pretty obscure 19th century books of which probably only a few copies exist. And although somewhere in the world a librarian is scanning a physical book when I request such a thing, they’re certainly not doing it by breaking the spine on a copier.
Possibly. On the other hand, I spent forty years as a university reference librarian (which, among other duties, involved helping students and faculty find books in “whatever” available format, and sympathizing with the ones who couldn’t grasp the idea that no, not “everything” is online, and they’d have to settle for a boring old physical entity, and it might even take a week or so for them to get *that* via Inter Library Loan).
Also, I’ve been volunteering for the fifteen or twenty years with both the Online Books Page and the Fictionmags Index, the former of which is solely focused on finding online texts to list, and the latter of which is largely based on finding periodicals, preferably online, to index. So I have quite a bit of faith in what I “might think.”
About 200 of the books in this room are 1950s downmarket British “Badger” science fiction and horror paperbacks. The run included a half-dozen or so reprints from middle-rank US editions, but the great majority were UK originals, about half of them by R. Lionel Fanthorpe, mostly of the “so bad it’s funny” school, and I’m not aware of anyone feeling putting them online is a priority — especially since they are likely all or virtually all under copyright (and Fanthorpe is still alive).
And yes, I’m aware of (among other sites) the Internet Archive (and affiliates), Project Gutenberg, Hathi Trust, Google Books, the Making of America files at Michigan, Comic Books Plus, the Pulp Magazines Project, Faded Pages, the Stanford Dime Novel Project, Wright American Fiction, and a whole bunch more. And I have a fair understanding of U.S. copyright law, which ties up possible legal availability of vast amounts of post-1923 books (illegal availability is of course distressingly commong as well, but such uploaders tend to concentrate on recent and/or “cool” stuff).
And I also know that photocopy machines still exist and still get used. (My previous comment specifically indicated that I wouldn’t trust most of my own books to ‘the sort of copier’ depicted in the cartoon; I’ve had no problems with arranging to get copies of pages from some of my old pulp magazines via a ‘shoot from above’ copier such as the special collections department of my former employer owns and uses.)
We have at least 4 working scanners and 4 printers – including an all in one (fax/copier/scanner/printer). I also have a photocopier that I inherited (literally and figuratively) from my dad with our accounting practice. (We had the copier at home a few months and one day there was a problem and I realized that I can no longer call, per the instructions, “the key person” – who I had longer ago figured out did not mean the person with a key to the copier. I was now the key person had to figure out how to determine what the problem was on my own.) A couple of years ago the copier needed new toner and I was having trouble locating a source (dad died in 1989 and it was not new then). I also found out that other than extremely expensive copiers one cannot find a stand alone, not a printer also, unit. So we kept searching until we found toner and ordered a couple of bottles. Since then Robert was using it and “mysteriously” a doored section that the paper from the tray passes on its trip through the process fell open. He put on scotch type tape but it did not work. One day we will get around to doing something with it so that one does not have to stand and hold it closed when making copies with the tray paper. Mostly lately I am lazy and copy with the all in the one, even if it does cost a penny or so more to print with.
I scan in and print out a lot of stuff – for work as well as otherwise. I am currently (as in when I have a chance, not this exact minute) scanning in articles from old issues of a musket/reenacting magazine. I need the magazine holders for newer magazines, but Robert wanted to keep it for “some” of the articles. I had him mark them and I scan them when I get a chance – he really does not need ads (and there are lots of ads in this type of magazines) and this will free up 3 magazine holders – plus he will able to check a list of the article files (name, author, date of issue it was in) for which article he wants, and he will be able to see them to read them as he can make the print larger.
I also scan in all clients tax returns and my paperwork to keep – much easier and compact than keeping a hard copy of everything. When I do a return, last year’s hard copy gets shredded.
I also scan articles from my Embroidery group’s national magazine and then pass the issue along to potential members. I keep one year’s worth of the magazines (4 issues) and then they are fair game to get rid of.
Magazines (generally Colonial Williamsburg or craft related) we want to keep in full, I scan in the table of
contents – makes it easier to search for an article.
So yes, scanning and photocopying is still done around our house.
There’s nothing wrong with her, so she doesn’t need a medical doctor. But what she says depresses other people, so she needs to see a spin doctor to teach her how to make other people happy when she tells them things.
Is this delayed synchronicity? We just did “spin class” two days ago. In two days will have someone with a loom in a 6 foot hole telling stories both spinning in their grace and spinning a yarn?
Their GRAVE. Arrgh.
This might have been amusing if they were in a doctor’s office, or waiting room. Here it just seems random. (Cartoonist pulls a drawing out of a cabinet.) “Here’s a drawing of two women by a copying machine. Huh, what did I have in mind for that? Oh well, I’ll come up with something.”
Why is she copying pages from a book? I did that when I was in school but that was before the internet or e-books
Strangely enough, not every book-like object is available on the internet, nor as an eBook. Sorry to shatter your world..
I’ve got several hundred books in this very room that I’m fairly sure in the wider world exist only in the form of ink on dead tree corpses. (Admittedly most of them are too old/scarce/fragile for me to think of wanting to risk damagin them on the sort of copy machine depicted in the cartoon.)
“Why is she copying pages from a book? I did that when I was in school but that was before the internet or e-books”
When I was in law school, I joined the law review. They have a task called “cite checking” that involves making sure that when the author of an article cites to a source, the source actually says what the author says it says. So each article would have a physical binder. Every cite in the article would be numbered, and each one would require a law review member go to the library, get the book the author was citing to, copy the page(s) cited to, and then highlight the text that said what the author said it said. (So if the author said such-and-such case established the rule that whatever, we’d look up that case and highlight the part that said that the rule was whatever.)
Law review articles have hundreds of citations in them, and so we’d have a fairly think binder when the task was done. Then the article would get printed, and we’d start over with the next batch.
Businesses still use copy machines, or at least large printers.
Stray thought: Remember marketing spin proclaiming the ‘paperless office” back in the dark ages of business computing?
Relating to the term Spin Doctor, here are a couple of differing “spins” on the term:
https://longreads.com/2015/02/15/where-does-the-term-spin-doctor-come-from/
https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/spin-doctor.html
I myself took “spin” to mean “to turn” or twist words to shift their meaning as one sees fit, though spinning yard is colorful imagery.in its own right.
Shrug: there are probably fewer books not accessible digitally than you might think. Besides the number of very big players working on digitizing all books out there (not just Google and Lexis-Nexis), who often particularly focus on older ones, there’s the worldwide network of university libraries. Nearly anything is in a library somewhere. I myself have gotten PDFs of chapters out of pretty obscure 19th century books of which probably only a few copies exist. And although somewhere in the world a librarian is scanning a physical book when I request such a thing, they’re certainly not doing it by breaking the spine on a copier.
Possibly. On the other hand, I spent forty years as a university reference librarian (which, among other duties, involved helping students and faculty find books in “whatever” available format, and sympathizing with the ones who couldn’t grasp the idea that no, not “everything” is online, and they’d have to settle for a boring old physical entity, and it might even take a week or so for them to get *that* via Inter Library Loan).
Also, I’ve been volunteering for the fifteen or twenty years with both the Online Books Page and the Fictionmags Index, the former of which is solely focused on finding online texts to list, and the latter of which is largely based on finding periodicals, preferably online, to index. So I have quite a bit of faith in what I “might think.”
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/
http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/0start.htm
About 200 of the books in this room are 1950s downmarket British “Badger” science fiction and horror paperbacks. The run included a half-dozen or so reprints from middle-rank US editions, but the great majority were UK originals, about half of them by R. Lionel Fanthorpe, mostly of the “so bad it’s funny” school, and I’m not aware of anyone feeling putting them online is a priority — especially since they are likely all or virtually all under copyright (and Fanthorpe is still alive).
And yes, I’m aware of (among other sites) the Internet Archive (and affiliates), Project Gutenberg, Hathi Trust, Google Books, the Making of America files at Michigan, Comic Books Plus, the Pulp Magazines Project, Faded Pages, the Stanford Dime Novel Project, Wright American Fiction, and a whole bunch more. And I have a fair understanding of U.S. copyright law, which ties up possible legal availability of vast amounts of post-1923 books (illegal availability is of course distressingly commong as well, but such uploaders tend to concentrate on recent and/or “cool” stuff).
And I also know that photocopy machines still exist and still get used. (My previous comment specifically indicated that I wouldn’t trust most of my own books to ‘the sort of copier’ depicted in the cartoon; I’ve had no problems with arranging to get copies of pages from some of my old pulp magazines via a ‘shoot from above’ copier such as the special collections department of my former employer owns and uses.)
We have at least 4 working scanners and 4 printers – including an all in one (fax/copier/scanner/printer). I also have a photocopier that I inherited (literally and figuratively) from my dad with our accounting practice. (We had the copier at home a few months and one day there was a problem and I realized that I can no longer call, per the instructions, “the key person” – who I had longer ago figured out did not mean the person with a key to the copier. I was now the key person had to figure out how to determine what the problem was on my own.) A couple of years ago the copier needed new toner and I was having trouble locating a source (dad died in 1989 and it was not new then). I also found out that other than extremely expensive copiers one cannot find a stand alone, not a printer also, unit. So we kept searching until we found toner and ordered a couple of bottles. Since then Robert was using it and “mysteriously” a doored section that the paper from the tray passes on its trip through the process fell open. He put on scotch type tape but it did not work. One day we will get around to doing something with it so that one does not have to stand and hold it closed when making copies with the tray paper. Mostly lately I am lazy and copy with the all in the one, even if it does cost a penny or so more to print with.
I scan in and print out a lot of stuff – for work as well as otherwise. I am currently (as in when I have a chance, not this exact minute) scanning in articles from old issues of a musket/reenacting magazine. I need the magazine holders for newer magazines, but Robert wanted to keep it for “some” of the articles. I had him mark them and I scan them when I get a chance – he really does not need ads (and there are lots of ads in this type of magazines) and this will free up 3 magazine holders – plus he will able to check a list of the article files (name, author, date of issue it was in) for which article he wants, and he will be able to see them to read them as he can make the print larger.
I also scan in all clients tax returns and my paperwork to keep – much easier and compact than keeping a hard copy of everything. When I do a return, last year’s hard copy gets shredded.
I also scan articles from my Embroidery group’s national magazine and then pass the issue along to potential members. I keep one year’s worth of the magazines (4 issues) and then they are fair game to get rid of.
Magazines (generally Colonial Williamsburg or craft related) we want to keep in full, I scan in the table of
contents – makes it easier to search for an article.
So yes, scanning and photocopying is still done around our house.