Hope I am posting this for the Trojan Horse – Kit Walker shows between the reply box and the horse –
Well, it looks a lot roomier than our tiny RV!
“Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”: The Greek never know how long they’ll have to stew inside the contraption, so they’d better install a few accommodations to while away the time.
Picture reminds me of Richard Scarry.
I don’t recall specifics of the original plan, but have the impression they would just be hidden overnight. Anyone know for sure?
The idea of the trope of “The ultimate man-cave” or “ultimate rec room” or whatever, which is a *minor* theme popping up on these innerwebs.
So, doing it for something historic like the Trojan Horse??? But why? Where’s the bite?
Also, “Trojan Horse” has implication of something invading and overnight. It’s not a place to spend any time or comfort, so…. doesn’t work?
Also the engineering location seems a mean anti-nerd type comment. Probably not intentional.
In the Eneid (book II), 24 hours.
Virgil explains that the Greek build the horse and their army leave their camp during the night.
In the morning, the Trojan find the horse, and bring it into the city during the day.
Next night, Sinon the traitor lights a signal for the Greek army and opens the horse.
Thanks! I didn’t realize it was told in the Aeneid (as we tend to spell it over here), though I knew the Iliad didn’t actually reach that point. I was mistakenly thinking it would be in the Odyssey, somewhere in his recollections from the war.
You were not mistaken, the horse appears also in the Odyssey, books IV, VIII and XI, but the Greek text is harder to interpret : there are many theses about the horse being actually an earthquake (Poseidon being linked to earthquakes and horses); or not being a horse at all, because the Greek word used can be translated as “wooden horse” or “super battering ram”.
A common comic trope is kids drawing up their “ultimate treehouse” (or other kid-typical location) with all the cool stuff they’d put in if time, effort, and money were not a consideration, which they aren’t because imagination. The point is to put in cool features, regardless of practicality. Batpoles to get in, secret passages, amusements of all sorts. It’s aspirational greed, disconnected from reality, because we’ve all had occasion to dream far beyond our engineering and construction capabilities, while very few of us have been able to actually achieve dreams of this sort, and more significantly, we grow up and incorporate realism into our aspirational greed, and we learn to do some cost-benefit analysis. Either that, or we start to wonder if we’ll be able to go back up the batpole entrance, when we want to leave the super-secret, headquarters base of awesomeness, without having to go through the bikini-model entrance.
This is just a variation on a theme.
I’m fairly certain you can find C&H cartoons where Calvin is diagramming the thing, and Fox Trot where Jason is, and I’m also sure that, if you go back far enough, there’s Dennis the Menace doing so, as well.
Engineering did a horrible job of engineering by putting their shop below the bathroom. Kind of reminds me of a two story outhouse…
There was a Calvin and Hobbes where they started to build the greatest snow fort ever, then realized it would take forever. Designing it on paper in front of the fire with cups of cocoa was ultimately preferred.
Perhaps not the most desirable place for Engineering, but the location it is in a ship – so by analogy?
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Hope I am posting this for the Trojan Horse – Kit Walker shows between the reply box and the horse –
Well, it looks a lot roomier than our tiny RV!
“Timeo Danaos et dona ferentes”: The Greek never know how long they’ll have to stew inside the contraption, so they’d better install a few accommodations to while away the time.
Picture reminds me of Richard Scarry.
I don’t recall specifics of the original plan, but have the impression they would just be hidden overnight. Anyone know for sure?
The idea of the trope of “The ultimate man-cave” or “ultimate rec room” or whatever, which is a *minor* theme popping up on these innerwebs.
So, doing it for something historic like the Trojan Horse??? But why? Where’s the bite?
Also, “Trojan Horse” has implication of something invading and overnight. It’s not a place to spend any time or comfort, so…. doesn’t work?
Also the engineering location seems a mean anti-nerd type comment. Probably not intentional.
In the Eneid (book II), 24 hours.
Virgil explains that the Greek build the horse and their army leave their camp during the night.
In the morning, the Trojan find the horse, and bring it into the city during the day.
Next night, Sinon the traitor lights a signal for the Greek army and opens the horse.
Thanks! I didn’t realize it was told in the Aeneid (as we tend to spell it over here), though I knew the Iliad didn’t actually reach that point. I was mistakenly thinking it would be in the Odyssey, somewhere in his recollections from the war.
You were not mistaken, the horse appears also in the Odyssey, books IV, VIII and XI, but the Greek text is harder to interpret : there are many theses about the horse being actually an earthquake (Poseidon being linked to earthquakes and horses); or not being a horse at all, because the Greek word used can be translated as “wooden horse” or “super battering ram”.
A common comic trope is kids drawing up their “ultimate treehouse” (or other kid-typical location) with all the cool stuff they’d put in if time, effort, and money were not a consideration, which they aren’t because imagination. The point is to put in cool features, regardless of practicality. Batpoles to get in, secret passages, amusements of all sorts. It’s aspirational greed, disconnected from reality, because we’ve all had occasion to dream far beyond our engineering and construction capabilities, while very few of us have been able to actually achieve dreams of this sort, and more significantly, we grow up and incorporate realism into our aspirational greed, and we learn to do some cost-benefit analysis. Either that, or we start to wonder if we’ll be able to go back up the batpole entrance, when we want to leave the super-secret, headquarters base of awesomeness, without having to go through the bikini-model entrance.
This is just a variation on a theme.
I’m fairly certain you can find C&H cartoons where Calvin is diagramming the thing, and Fox Trot where Jason is, and I’m also sure that, if you go back far enough, there’s Dennis the Menace doing so, as well.
Engineering did a horrible job of engineering by putting their shop below the bathroom. Kind of reminds me of a two story outhouse…
There was a Calvin and Hobbes where they started to build the greatest snow fort ever, then realized it would take forever. Designing it on paper in front of the fire with cups of cocoa was ultimately preferred.
Perhaps not the most desirable place for Engineering, but the location it is in a ship – so by analogy?
Bill, if the 2-story outhouse is properly designed… https://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2527